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Offline =XA= Vape-Cat

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awp.
« on: December 14, 2018, 12:38:14 PM »
before anyone jumps in here and says "get good"  hear me out.

yes i know the awp is part of the game but the main reason its fine in the games base form is because of the cost. in a 16k server well that tilts the needle more to overpowered/unfun. ive seen the server empty out because one side is doing nothing but awping on multiple occasions.  Before anyone gets their panties in a twist, im not saying remove it. there is a plugin that restricts that amount each side can have based on the amount of people on each team. i know you guys have a strict no banning awp thing, not sure if the reasoning is "its part of the game" so is the auto snipers and you cant buy them. also instead of saying  "not gonna happen" or the likes of. lets have a actual discussion on the matter. set up a poll see how everyone feels. at the end of the day its the community that keeps the server going. times change and so do people.


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« Last Edit: December 14, 2018, 12:39:54 PM by Vape-Cat »

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Re: awp.
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2018, 12:52:51 PM »
I agree! there has been a lot of "discussion" in the server regarding AWPs, and very little of it good. The server has emptied out fast on westwood when all the CT are awping from the sky:( I don't mind dieing but many ppl do. Vape has a good point wit the Poll idea! mabe not just poll open/restricted, but also how many per team, even one auto per team....things like that. lets try to find some type of middle ground on this.

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Offline =XA= Chuck

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Re: awp.
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2018, 07:00:54 PM »
Do a forum search this has been talked about many many times before and there is even another thread going on it now.

The Auto sniper and shield can ONLY be bought by one side this is why they were removed since you asked everyone can buy a AWP or a scout or what ever.

Also limiting (WOW I have said this a bet a thousand times now) LOL  If we limited the AWP that would really be a unfair advantage.  ONLY low ping players would get one since they can buy faster. So how fair is that?

I still say the ones who complain about the AWP mostly call it a noob gun or what not when it does take skill to use one.  Also this one shot one kill is nothing but crap too. I have seen many people not die with one shot. I have also seen many peo0ple die with one shot but it isn't automatic get hit by AWP and die.

Now most know I hardly ever play with a AWP mostly if I get killed by one then I sometimes will try to kill the one who killed me with the AWP. But that's just me.

Anyway do a search would be quicker to search to get answers.



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Re: awp.
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2018, 08:24:22 PM »
The skill takes awp, I mean the awp takes skill. Most people have gotten really good with it. Limiting would be bad idea because of the latency reason Chuck raised. Also, if good players get a hold of the awp, and don't die, they continue to have the awp next round and most people would never even get to use it if they wanted to.

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Re: awp.
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2018, 09:57:52 PM »
welp guess i wont be sticking around. have fun guys.

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Re: awp.
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2018, 01:41:46 AM »
well its just a shame we are loosing  good players over this..

I don't care about awps. I dodge them all the time.

its the "  (WOW I have said this a bet a thousand times now) LOL."  approach that I think ppl are have'n a problem wit...


i have been aproached by a few ppl reasently that have said they dont feel like they are being heard on the forums.   not sure what is going on  :( seems weird..


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Re: awp.
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2018, 06:50:44 AM »
Can't please everyone I guess. Awp's don't bother me. I'm pretty decent with any gun. I'll pick an awp up if I am getting owned by one constantly. But also like Chuck stated in the other awp thread we having going right now, learn to dodge one or find a way to move and play without being picked up by one, it will in the long run make you a better player. Although I do feel like some maps, should not have one.

Like assault for instance, it promotes ct's to camp spawn buildings and awp when camping up there isn't allowed after 30 seconds into the round. Or de_buzzkill because its such a small map. May be a few others but those two just for example.

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Re: awp.
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2018, 07:54:14 AM »
well its just a shame we are loosing  good players over this..

I don't care about awps. I dodge them all the time.

its the "  (WOW I have said this a bet a thousand times now) LOL."  approach that I think ppl are have'n a problem wit...


i have been aproached by a few ppl reasently that have said they dont feel like they are being heard on the forums.   not sure what is going on  :( seems weird..

Not loosing good players over this or they wouldn't be here complaining.  :O)  XA has been around just about 15+ years now and I'm sure it will scrape by with a few players leaving.  We can't and won't change the way that has worked for the past 15+ years.

Other clans have tried to change to make everyone happy and it jsut won't happen and those clans are not here today becasue of it.  Can't make everyone happy and not about to lower the level of skill play to make some happy. The whole idea is to make ones game play better not drag those who are better down to your play that is called socialism to make everyone the same how boring and no one would try and better themselves.

Hate to see anyone leave BUT if they do not want to try we can't drag them up the ladder and I won't sure in the hell let them drag us down the ladder.




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Re: awp.
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2018, 08:09:11 AM »
well its just a shame we are loosing  good players over this..

I don't care about awps. I dodge them all the time.

its the "  (WOW I have said this a bet a thousand times now) LOL."  approach that I think ppl are have'n a problem wit...


i have been aproached by a few ppl reasently that have said they dont feel like they are being heard on the forums.   not sure what is going on  :( seems weird..

Not loosing good players over this or they wouldn't be here complaining.  :O)  XA has been around just about 15+ years now and I'm sure it will scrape by with a few players leaving.  We can't and won't change the way that has worked for the past 15+ years.

Other clans have tried to change to make everyone happy and it jsut won't happen and those clans are not here today becasue of it.  Can't make everyone happy and not about to lower the level of skill play to make some happy. The whole idea is to make ones game play better not drag those who are better down to your play that is called socialism to make everyone the same how boring and no one would try and better themselves.

Hate to see anyone leave BUT if they do not want to try we can't drag them up the ladder and I won't sure in the hell let them drag us down the ladder.



with a attitude like that seems i made the right choice. peace.

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Re: awp.
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2018, 12:27:36 PM »
well its just a shame we are loosing  good players over this..

I don't care about awps. I dodge them all the time.

its the "  (WOW I have said this a bet a thousand times now) LOL."  approach that I think ppl are have'n a problem wit...


i have been aproached by a few ppl reasently that have said they dont feel like they are being heard on the forums.   not sure what is going on  :( seems weird..

Not loosing good players over this or they wouldn't be here complaining.  :O)  XA has been around just about 15+ years now and I'm sure it will scrape by with a few players leaving.  We can't and won't change the way that has worked for the past 15+ years.

Other clans have tried to change to make everyone happy and it jsut won't happen and those clans are not here today becasue of it.  Can't make everyone happy and not about to lower the level of skill play to make some happy. The whole idea is to make ones game play better not drag those who are better down to your play that is called socialism to make everyone the same how boring and no one would try and better themselves.

Hate to see anyone leave BUT if they do not want to try we can't drag them up the ladder and I won't sure in the hell let them drag us down the ladder.



with a attitude like that seems i made the right choice. peace.

Yep you did Vape_Cat my thought and attitude hasnb't changed since XA began and XA is still here.

When you say Attitude what you REALLY mean is well I guess I'm not going to get my way and bring players down to my level so I'll go elsewhere.

So I say goodbye.

 


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Re: awp.
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2018, 02:55:37 PM »
The Auto sniper can ONLY be bought by one side this is why they were removed since you asked everyone can buy a AWP or a scout or what ever.

Both sides have an auto-sniper :)

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Re: awp.
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2018, 03:40:32 PM »
I dont wanna step on toes here, but not being open to discussion about it is quite irritating, now it's not just our steam players bitching about it but I'll stand here all day and say fuck the awp, and I know alot of our members that think that way too.

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Re: awp.
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2018, 07:04:08 PM »
Why is everyone fussing about the awps? Its a part of the game. Instead of fussing about restricting or banning awps, one should focus on raising their skill level or learn how to awp. Try to learn from your mistakes, use smoke flashes there's plenty of strategies that'll prevent you from being awped. For ex on Dust2 if youre a CT use smoke while rushing mid DD to lower tunnels. Thats the most obvious spot where you most likely get hit by an awper from T spawn. That is just one trick there's plenty more just gotta figure out what suits best for you under that particular situation.

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Re: awp.
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2018, 08:50:55 PM »
I can understand both sides. From Chuck's perspective, he's been fielding the same awp propositions dozens and dozens of times over and I'm sure it gets really frustrating. I can also see why the approach rubbed Vape the wrong way. I'm anti-unlimited-awp as well - and think they hamper the pace of pub play - but on the grand scale, its a minor qualm compared to all the great things I love about XA, in game and out.

IMO Vape is one of our best regulars. Really hope you stick around man.

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Re: awp.
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2018, 08:14:32 AM »
It's rare for me to come in to a situation where I think the AWP has totally ruins a map, but I understand people's concerns. A really good AWPer in certain spots can be hard to deal with. It takes a lot of tactics.

I've played in several limited AWP servers in the past. I have mixed feelings about them. Sometimes, it becomes a fight to see who buys the thing first, and then you get people bickering because they don't think the person who keeps getting it is good enough with it to have it. It's a whole thing.

The AWP gets a bad rap. Sure, its a one-shot kill to the body, but it's accuracy and speed are iffy, and if the AWPer misses on a good player, especially from mid-range in, he is probably dead. Personally, I like killing them with an AK or M4. It makes me feel nice.

 

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